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		<title>By: Barbara Keddy</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-3970</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Keddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry there isn&#039;t but there aren&#039;t many places that do, unfortunately! I feel so sorry for my own spouse as he has to do so much caregiving for me. 
Best wishes,
Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>I am so sorry there isn&#8217;t but there aren&#8217;t many places that do, unfortunately! I feel so sorry for my own spouse as he has to do so much caregiving for me.<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe Paez</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-3966</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe Paez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a group like Mary and Maurice created in the US, near me. We need it so bad.</description>
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		<title>By: Maurice Clarke</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been a while, our rugby group is now in our 4th year and more members are getting involved

We have set up a Facebook page and thanks to a grant now have 2 laptops a projector and video camera

Many of our members are now firm friends and we have a lot of younger women in their 30&#039;s with FM

Have started home visits to home bound members

Membership 60 or so, having to weed them out we charge £5 a year sub which many seem reluctant to pay so I guess 40-50 hardcore members with 20-30 to a meeting is the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>Been a while, our rugby group is now in our 4th year and more members are getting involved</p>
<p>We have set up a Facebook page and thanks to a grant now have 2 laptops a projector and video camera</p>
<p>Many of our members are now firm friends and we have a lot of younger women in their 30&#8242;s with FM</p>
<p>Have started home visits to home bound members</p>
<p>Membership 60 or so, having to weed them out we charge £5 a year sub which many seem reluctant to pay so I guess 40-50 hardcore members with 20-30 to a meeting is the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Keddy</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Keddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Andrew! Come again!</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Pelt</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Pelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great website! Love the content you have on here.  Please keep up the good work and I will be sure to visit quite often. Thanks much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>Great website! Love the content you have on here.  Please keep up the good work and I will be sure to visit quite often. Thanks much!</p>
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		<title>By: barbara keddy</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>barbara keddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so very much for the effort you have put into just answering my questions given how much work has been required to try to organize the groups and newletter on top of being a caregiver. 
You are rignt, Maurice, generally men do not discuss their feelings as openly as women and given that they have to care for their spouse, most men would consider that this is too private for them to talk about openly and too time consuming. This isn&#039;t all that different for women caregivers as well who say they don&#039;t have time to attend meetings. Yet, Mary has shown that they do appreciate the time she spends with them on the phone. 
In the vast carer research of many decades it has been documented that caregiving was considered to be &#039;women&#039;s work&#039; (unfortunately). Yet, I know so many men who are wonderful carers. It seems like you and Mary are quite an effective team, each of you utilizing your own efficient skills. I can just imagine Mary spending hours talking to people who have been affected by fibro. It fits with my view of what most women do best, helping others express their feelings/emotions. It also reinforces the usual perception of men as highly adept in their own realms. One way of doing things isn&#039;t better, just different as you and Mary have shown.
Both of you seem practical and generous towards others but tired and ready to give up on the great effort and time required of the groups and newletter. I am so sorry that things did not turn out as hoped for the support groups. Once again the research shows that most groups of this type have a higher percentage of women than men who attend regularly.  
I wish you and Mary many good wishes in the new year ahead and congratulate you on all you have done to heighten awareness of the physical and emotional work required of caregivers. Thank you, Maurice and Mary.
Best regards,
Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>Thank you so very much for the effort you have put into just answering my questions given how much work has been required to try to organize the groups and newletter on top of being a caregiver.<br />
You are rignt, Maurice, generally men do not discuss their feelings as openly as women and given that they have to care for their spouse, most men would consider that this is too private for them to talk about openly and too time consuming. This isn&#8217;t all that different for women caregivers as well who say they don&#8217;t have time to attend meetings. Yet, Mary has shown that they do appreciate the time she spends with them on the phone.<br />
In the vast carer research of many decades it has been documented that caregiving was considered to be &#8216;women&#8217;s work&#8217; (unfortunately). Yet, I know so many men who are wonderful carers. It seems like you and Mary are quite an effective team, each of you utilizing your own efficient skills. I can just imagine Mary spending hours talking to people who have been affected by fibro. It fits with my view of what most women do best, helping others express their feelings/emotions. It also reinforces the usual perception of men as highly adept in their own realms. One way of doing things isn&#8217;t better, just different as you and Mary have shown.<br />
Both of you seem practical and generous towards others but tired and ready to give up on the great effort and time required of the groups and newletter. I am so sorry that things did not turn out as hoped for the support groups. Once again the research shows that most groups of this type have a higher percentage of women than men who attend regularly.<br />
I wish you and Mary many good wishes in the new year ahead and congratulate you on all you have done to heighten awareness of the physical and emotional work required of caregivers. Thank you, Maurice and Mary.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fibrolands held 3 meeting and we had 2 men carers attend plus me, although some 4 others &quot;promised&quot; they had reasons why they did not make it. One guy had never been to a general support meeting so for him it was a big step and is now an active part of the group and become a great friend, He was a stranger to me and the group 6 months ago.

They other guy was already active in the group and has some good ideas. We all spoke freely but at the last meeting decided to not hold any more meetings for a while to see if we could get more interest.

For sure any meetings would need to be 5-10 buys - we met in a pub which was a good idea and just sat around a table, no special room or equipment.

Yes the group is for MEN - I spoke to several women members about their partners attended and they thought it was a great idea but HE/they did not see any value in attending. Men generally do NOT like talking about their feelings, whereas women are freer in this regard.

Mary and I see and have contact with 30 or more regular people with FM most with partners - ranging from 25 to 80 in age. Some are still working and overall in varying degrees of pain. Most have other issues with the FM so making treatment hard.

As a &quot;professional&quot; administrator and computer &quot;wizz&quot; Mary is often annoyed at the way I do things as I may well go over the top. She on the other hand can spend 1-2 hrs on the phone talking to a new member and we send out loads of papers, the sufferer then never contacts us again. 

Some have said &quot;its niice to know there is a group there&quot; but seem to have no need to attend meetings.

Many of our long established members who are loyal have become more outgoinging and friendly and to them the group has been a life saver.

The big problem is attitude of family, friends and of partners to those with FM. There is still SO MUCH to tell people and so many QUESTIONS being asked, its an endless and thankless task.

We have some 5 male members BUT have no contact with their partners which is interesting....... and only 1 man sufferer attends meetings.

A newsletter has been useful but although they welcome it, never seem to read it.

We have just started a £5 (GBP) a year subscription and I guess we may loose 75% of the membership as many people seem to think we should run for free, we have had a few grants but need income to meet costs especially if we are servcing 50 members and only 10 contribute to the costs.

At least a smaller more committed group will be easier to manage, Mary and I are so tired of the effort we have put in for such limited response. This is the way FM hits people and a burden we must all endure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>The Fibrolands held 3 meeting and we had 2 men carers attend plus me, although some 4 others &#8220;promised&#8221; they had reasons why they did not make it. One guy had never been to a general support meeting so for him it was a big step and is now an active part of the group and become a great friend, He was a stranger to me and the group 6 months ago.</p>
<p>They other guy was already active in the group and has some good ideas. We all spoke freely but at the last meeting decided to not hold any more meetings for a while to see if we could get more interest.</p>
<p>For sure any meetings would need to be 5-10 buys &#8211; we met in a pub which was a good idea and just sat around a table, no special room or equipment.</p>
<p>Yes the group is for MEN &#8211; I spoke to several women members about their partners attended and they thought it was a great idea but HE/they did not see any value in attending. Men generally do NOT like talking about their feelings, whereas women are freer in this regard.</p>
<p>Mary and I see and have contact with 30 or more regular people with FM most with partners &#8211; ranging from 25 to 80 in age. Some are still working and overall in varying degrees of pain. Most have other issues with the FM so making treatment hard.</p>
<p>As a &#8220;professional&#8221; administrator and computer &#8220;wizz&#8221; Mary is often annoyed at the way I do things as I may well go over the top. She on the other hand can spend 1-2 hrs on the phone talking to a new member and we send out loads of papers, the sufferer then never contacts us again. </p>
<p>Some have said &#8220;its niice to know there is a group there&#8221; but seem to have no need to attend meetings.</p>
<p>Many of our long established members who are loyal have become more outgoinging and friendly and to them the group has been a life saver.</p>
<p>The big problem is attitude of family, friends and of partners to those with FM. There is still SO MUCH to tell people and so many QUESTIONS being asked, its an endless and thankless task.</p>
<p>We have some 5 male members BUT have no contact with their partners which is interesting&#8230;&#8230;. and only 1 man sufferer attends meetings.</p>
<p>A newsletter has been useful but although they welcome it, never seem to read it.</p>
<p>We have just started a £5 (GBP) a year subscription and I guess we may loose 75% of the membership as many people seem to think we should run for free, we have had a few grants but need income to meet costs especially if we are servcing 50 members and only 10 contribute to the costs.</p>
<p>At least a smaller more committed group will be easier to manage, Mary and I are so tired of the effort we have put in for such limited response. This is the way FM hits people and a burden we must all endure.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Keddy</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Keddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Maurice. Questions and answers that would be of great help to other men: 1)What is it about FibroLads that helps you in particular? 2)Do only men attend? 3) What are the major issues men as &#039;carers&#039; (I know Mary does not like that term) find the most difficult? 4)What do you find to be the most challenging caring for Mary? I will ask a couple of other questions too so that we an save time: 5)Would Mary be ok with you describing her personality, that is, for example, would you consider her to be a highly sensitive woman, frequently concerned about the needs of others? 6) Does it help a great deal being with other men talking about your roles in these daily struggles with FM? Finally, 7) What advice would you give other men who are looking after their spouses who are living with this invisible dis-ease?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>Thanks Maurice. Questions and answers that would be of great help to other men: 1)What is it about FibroLads that helps you in particular? 2)Do only men attend? 3) What are the major issues men as &#8216;carers&#8217; (I know Mary does not like that term) find the most difficult? 4)What do you find to be the most challenging caring for Mary? I will ask a couple of other questions too so that we an save time: 5)Would Mary be ok with you describing her personality, that is, for example, would you consider her to be a highly sensitive woman, frequently concerned about the needs of others? 6) Does it help a great deal being with other men talking about your roles in these daily struggles with FM? Finally, 7) What advice would you give other men who are looking after their spouses who are living with this invisible dis-ease?</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
		<link>http://womenandfibromyalgia.com/2009/12/26/male-caregiving-for-the-spouse-with-fibromyalgia/comment-page-1/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary and I started our support group due to experiences in the Midlands and Norfolk (UK) in attending other support groups as members and then finding none in our own area. We had travelled some 20 miles to attend another group which eventually folded due to lack of support.

I had good PR experience so was able to get a lot of (free) local articles on the new group and we grew that way.

We still have a problem only 25% of members on our &quot;books&quot; attend meetings, I do all the admin work and Mary talks a lot on the phone to people who have or think they have FM, it has taken over our lives but Marys health continues to get worse so I am not sure how long we can safely continue, there seems nobody able or willing to take our place and I cannot see me being in the group if Mary opts out.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- encryptx:  / false --><!-- linktext:  / false --><p>Mary and I started our support group due to experiences in the Midlands and Norfolk (UK) in attending other support groups as members and then finding none in our own area. We had travelled some 20 miles to attend another group which eventually folded due to lack of support.</p>
<p>I had good PR experience so was able to get a lot of (free) local articles on the new group and we grew that way.</p>
<p>We still have a problem only 25% of members on our &#8220;books&#8221; attend meetings, I do all the admin work and Mary talks a lot on the phone to people who have or think they have FM, it has taken over our lives but Marys health continues to get worse so I am not sure how long we can safely continue, there seems nobody able or willing to take our place and I cannot see me being in the group if Mary opts out&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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